Patch 8.0.1

[emcr007]

o Miles da SI postou la no forum q provavelmete o patch esteja pronto no fim de semana e seria lancado no comeco da semana q vem...

maaaaaaaaaaaaaaas... ele disse q nao pode promete isso pq o beta tester podem descobri coisas novas ai teria q arrumar ai ja era... mas a principio se nada desse errado sairia comeco da semana q vem...

bela noticia, comprei um PC novo e ele vai ta prontinho esperando!!! :P

[Daniel Sad]

The stage we are at now is that Paul is finishing off some match engine tweaks over the next couple of days, and we'll then get that version out to the Dream Team and the QA guys, and get it tested over the weekend. If that all goes without a hitch, you can expect a patch early next week - it takes a day or so to build all the different versions of the patch that are needed.

If this testing doesn't go as well as we hope, and more problems are found, then I'll add to this thread, and give a new estimated timeframe.

There are no promises with any of this - I just wanted to explain the processes, which hopefully I've now done.

aqui a mensagem dele em relacao a data de lancamento...

[mmfaria®]

Boa notícia!

[Dorado]

I've closed down the old patch thread as I wanted people to see the following, rather than it being lost, and to let everyone know exactly what is going on with the patch, and the process that has been gone through thus far.

I'm not interested in getting involved in the war of words that is going on- it's very easy for people to say things on an internet forum in the heat of moment, and most of us here have done it ourselves from time to time. We understand that some people are disappointed with the time the patch has taken, and some are disappointed with the game as a whole too. We've learnt over the years that it's not possible to please all people, all of the time, particularly not when you have as rabid and passionate a community as we have, so we concentrate on doing our best at all times.

For some of you, that best is not good enough, and there will be nothing that we can ever do or say that can change that. The constructive comments are always noted, and the destructive ones are ignored as much as possible, as getting annoyed, angry, or hurt just slows down the whole work process - we are a bunch of guys who make computer games with the purpose of entertaining people. What we do gives many people enjoyment, and we're very proud of that, but it's not as if our actions are the difference between the world being saved or not. We'll leave that to Hiro and his friends.

So, the patch. When the game was released, or with some things, between the game going into manufacture and it being released, there were a handful of issues reported that we deemed "must fix". There were also some little things that we wanted to look at. The senior team members here concentrated on the "must fix" side of things, with the less senior the other things.

Probably the most spoken about one of these is the "closing down" bug.

Whilst there were certainly workarounds for it, it was very frustrating, and Paul Collyer set about working on fixing it. The problem with fixing things in the match engine is that any tiny tweak can put the whole match engine out of sync. Paul fixed it quite early on, but other knock on problems occurred, and the match engine needed to be re-balanced to take those into account.

Whilst Paul was working on these, the Scottish fixture issue (whereby if you save between a certain couple of weeks of ingame time, and exit the game, and reload, the fixtures weren't generated) was fixed, some of the long term confidence issues were also sorted, as was a stadium expansion problem, along with lots of minor niggling things that wouldn't have been noticed by 99.99% of the people playing the game.

At this stage, we noticed that the matches were taking a lot longer to process, due to the extra calculations that were going on to fix the closing down issue, and the aforementioned other changes that developed from this.

We decided to release the beta patch as we were unhappy with the speed decrease, but also felt it necessary that people could play the game, with us thinking that it was only the speed issue that needed to be sorted.

The beta patch threw up some more confidence issues that we hadn't seen, so those needed to be fixed aswell, and Paul and a coder on another project set about optimising the match engine.

The optimisation took slightly longer than we were hoping, and the match code then went into test internally here at SI (we've kept a lot more testers here than we would normally do after a game has come out to ensure that lots of testing is done on the patch) and what we call our "Dream Team", which is some of our most constructive vocal posters on these forums over the years. This threw up a few more match engine issues, and balancing issues compared to real world stats due to, as I mentioned earlier, any tiny changes in the match engine, even optimising, causing other issues to occur.

The stage we are at now is that Paul is finishing off some match engine tweaks over the next couple of days, and we'll then get that version out to the Dream Team and the QA guys, and get it tested over the weekend. If that all goes without a hitch, you can expect a patch early next week - it takes a day or so to build all the different versions of the patch that are needed.

If this testing doesn't go as well as we hope, and more problems are found, then I'll add to this thread, and give a new estimated timeframe.

There are no promises with any of this - I just wanted to explain the processes, which hopefully I've now done.

We are, as always, committed to everyone having the best gameplaying experience possible. Some people will not be happy, and that is the case with every game that is released, but some of the vitriol on these forums really surprises me sometimes. I've been playing the same version of the game that everyone on these forums has, and have been enjoying it immensely, in my 6th season with Watford and in the Champions League. I came across one of the bugs myself to do with confidence (and found one to do with stadium expansions that hasn't been reported here, but has been fixed before anyone could do!), so lost a couple of seasons of my "record" which was frustrating, but those have been minor issues compared to my enjoyment of the game thus far, and less "showstopping" than some of the issues I'm having with other games at the moment. There are no excuses though - we would love to have released a game with no issues at all, but sometimes things just slip through the net, and there's little we can do about that apart from try our best to fix them as quickly as we can. We're all working round the clock to achieve this.

[Denis.]

Alguem traduz?

EDIT. Tomei vergonha na cara e li o texto.

Tem uns esclarecimentos legais, mas o que interessa a todos, que é o patch, segundo ele, esperam lançar no incio da proxima semana!

[Mark]

alguma chance de sair hoje?

[Daniel Sad]

chance tem... mas menos de 5%.... hehehehe

[Coutinho]

Parece q sai semana q vem!

[Lewiks]

Na moral...

Quer um pacth que corrija o número de empates do meu time... Não é possível, to achando que essa porra é bug já, estou a 18 jgoos invícto, quem olha assim acha "porra, o cara ta bem", só que ai vem o complemento, são 5 vitórias e 13 empates. Fui campeão da libertadores empatando a porra toda, ou ganhava no gol fora de casa ou nos pênaltis.

[Matheuѕ]

Na moral...

Quer um pacth que corrija o número de empates do meu time... Não é possível, to achando que essa porra é bug já, estou a 18 jgoos invícto, quem olha assim acha "porra, o cara ta bem", só que ai vem o complemento, são 5 vitórias e 13 empates. Fui campeão da libertadores empatando a porra toda, ou ganhava no gol fora de casa ou nos pênaltis.

Acontece essas empatites desde o fm 2005. eu jah perdi a esperança de arrumarem isso. Quem sabe no fm 3412.

[Tonaarea]

Daqui a algumas semanas... Provavelmente daqui a 56 semanas mais ou menos.

[Dorado]

Sorry its taken a while for us to post an update - but here goes.

Weekend testing went well, but there were one or two issues we decided would become annoyances and so we are having the fixes tested for them over the next couple of days.

The upshot is that there wont be a patch until we can be sure the changes work without knock ons. And if anything else comes up it will take a bit longer.

Please bear with us - we just want to do this right.

Paul

[Tonaarea]

Acho engraçado q é gasto uma nota pra comprar um jogo q vem cheio de erros e bugs. E um patch de correção OFICIAL demora bastante a sair. E só de patchs de correção, temos que baixar quase metade do tamanho do jogo.

Será que eles só criam o jogo e não testam??? E pra quem tem conexão discada? Como fica baixar 40, 50 até 80MB num patch?

Admiro que a SI Games admita falhas no jogo e corrija. É um grande recall online. Mas ela tem bastante experiência em games pra errar tanto assim.

Aguardemos ansiosos o patch!

:thumbsup:

[Denis.]

Sorry its taken a while for us to post an update - but here goes.

Weekend testing went well, but there were one or two issues we decided would become annoyances and so we are having the fixes tested for them over the next couple of days.

The upshot is that there wont be a patch until we can be sure the changes work without knock ons. And if anything else comes up it will take a bit longer.

Please bear with us - we just want to do this right.

Paul

Afff

mais espera..pqp!

Quero começa meu jogo logo..

[emcr007]

QUOTE(Dorado @ 20/11/2007 - 16:31)

Sorry its taken a while for us to post an update - but here goes.

Weekend testing went well, but there were one or two issues we decided would become annoyances and so we are having the fixes tested for them over the next couple of days.

The upshot is that there wont be a patch until we can be sure the changes work without knock ons. And if anything else comes up it will take a bit longer.

Please bear with us - we just want to do this right.

Paul

Afff

mais espera..pqp!

Quero começa meu jogo logo..

Traduzam ae galera, o que diz exatamente...???

[mmfaria®]

Sorry its taken a while for us to post an update - but here goes.

Weekend testing went well, but there were one or two issues we decided would become annoyances and so we are having the fixes tested for them over the next couple of days.

The upshot is that there wont be a patch until we can be sure the changes work without knock ons. And if anything else comes up it will take a bit longer.

Please bear with us - we just want to do this right.

Paul

Desculpe por estar demorando para q nós postemos uma atualização - mas aqui vai.

Os testes do fim de semana correram bem, mas tiveram um ou dois problemas que decidimos que se tornariam irritantes e então nós estaremos testando as correções para os mesmos durantes os próximos dias.

O objetivo é que não sairá um patch até que nós tenhamos certeza de que as modificações funcionaram sem problemas. E se aparecer mais alguma coisa, vai demorar um pouco mais.

Por favor aguentem um pouco mais - nós queremos fazer tudo certo.

[Dorado]

Sai amanha. :specool: :thumbsup:

build" 114283. :bleh:

Tem cerca de 160 Mb.

Posted 20 November 2007 18:02

Hey all,

I thought I’d drop by and give you and update on where we are at with the 8.0.1 patch.

We have finished optimising the match engine and the results from our tests have proved positive; the slowdown issue that affected the speed of the game has now been addressed.

We will be conducting our final tests this evening and overnight, and providing everything checks out okay, we’ll begin building the patch from tomorrow and will hopefully release the final version later in the evening.

Our intention is to deliver all patches across all platforms at the same time.

Thanks again for your patience and continued support. Smile

Cheers,

Neil

[GuGA™]

Acho engraçado q é gasto uma nota pra comprar um jogo q vem cheio de erros e bugs. E um patch de correção OFICIAL demora bastante a sair. E só de patchs de correção, temos que baixar quase metade do tamanho do jogo.

Será que eles só criam o jogo e não testam??? E pra quem tem conexão discada? Como fica baixar 40, 50 até 80MB num patch?

Admiro que a SI Games admita falhas no jogo e corrija. É um grande recall online. Mas ela tem bastante experiência em games pra errar tanto assim.

Aguardemos ansiosos o patch!

:thumbsup:

isso é fato, infelizmente... do jeito q a match engine veio na demo e no jogo original, era bizarro asuhaeuhasue

[Dorado]

CITAÇÃO(changelist.txt)

Football Manager 2008 v8.0.1

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General

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- Supporter spokesperson's nationalities match up to their city of birth.

- Team-mates will no longer dislike each other for seemingly no reason.

- Reduced incidents of players having "Worried by lack of discipline" unhappiness.

- Players more likely to be unhappy at being harshly fined.

- News is now sent to the human if a reserve team friendly he has arranged is rejected.

- Supporter Spokespersons don't respond to job adverts anymore.

- 'Reject all offers' holiday instruction now works for draft pick transfer offers.

- Players do not gain a year of nation eligibility if they are returned from loan early.

- Players do not gain extra days of nation eligibility to their main team’s nation when returning from loan.

- Slight limits on morale of players who haven’t been at clubs very long.

- Non-EU Under 18 players can now move within EU countries if they are already in a EU country.

- Improved the code which chooses ethnicity of players with dual nationalities.

- Lowered abilities of virtual players in reserve teams.

- Stopped exploit which allowed multiple feeder clubs to be gained at once.

- Fixed "Ends with" Favourites filter on player staff search returning erroneous results.

- Stop recently retired players becoming part of consortiums in club takeovers at too young an age.

- Can now fine players for unprofessional behaviour / sending off again within the period of their last fine.

- Stopped cheat that allowed multiple feeder clubs to be gained at one time.

- For fixtures at neutral venues, sometimes the match odds would be swapped between the 2 teams.

- Made morale slightly lower for attacking players who are on a goal drought.

- Fixed the issue of too many players with just first name as common name (for example Portugal).

- Adjusted the non-playing attribute distribution for newgen non-players.

- Adjusted the starting ability and development of non-playing staff.

- Stopped players from occasionally disliking themselves.

- Tweaked Feeder Clubs selection (including reducing Irish feeders for British teams).

- Fixed expansions to stadium capacity being reverted when loading a saved game.

- Fixed seating expansions for non-professinal clubs when requested by the league.

- Stopped player status getting set to backup from not needed in Spain and other leagues with B teams.

- Stopped human being able to set the captain and vice-captain to be the same person when replacing an old vice-captain.

- Fixed bug where captain set via news item would not be used in tactics and therefore in the match, caused by going to the tactics screen before confirming the news selection.

- Fixed bug where B teams in active leagues were sometimes not giving squad numbers out to enough players.

- Fixed problem with show recent attribute changes setting not being restored properly when moving between player screens

- Adjusted the physical attributes decline for older players to start earlier

Board Confidence

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- Got long-term expectations to update quicker once a team has effectively finished thier season (e.g team wins league with 10 games to go).

- Fixed long-term expectations confidence level getting set to zero if team gets to a higher division than it's long-term expectations and stays in that same division the following season.

- Got the board to offer new contracts to managers around 2 months before the end of thier deals instead of the existing one month, if deals get to that stage.

Finances

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- Adjusted transfer income percentages for financially troubled clubs.

- Adjusted building costs of new stadiums and added possible grants for smaller clubs.

- Enhanced the chances of a takeover when club is bankrupt for a long period.

- Fixed amateur team not to pay wages to managers.

- Fixed new sponsorship news item in some cases showing £0 instead of the real value.

- Fixed support for "remaining wage budget" imported from the database at the start.

- Fixed support for custom stadium rental fees set in the database at the start.

- Fixed sponsorships that had no value set in database (fixes saved games at the first monthly financial update).

- Fixed start and end dates for starting loans read from the database.

- Fixed club transfer and wage budget given to a new hired manager to match the ones in the news.

- Fixed transfer budget update with season expectation news when no multiple expectations to choose.

- Prevented human users from exploiting the budget adjustments and season expectations to boost budgets excessively.

- Tuned Argentinean ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.

- Tuned Australian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.

- Tuned Brazilian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.

- Tuned Colombian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.

- Tuned Danish general finances for a better balance.

- Tuned French general finances for a better balance.

- Tuned German general finances for a better balance.

- Tuned Italian general finances for a better balance.

- Tuned Mexican ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.

- Tuned Norwegian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.

- Tuned Peruvian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.

- Tuned Russian ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.

- Tuned Uruguayan ticket prices and general finances for a better balance.

- Tweaked feeder club payments for smaller clubs and poorer nations.

Team Selection

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- Fixed issue regarding Gk's being picked outfield.

- Given staff members greater flexibility when rating players for squad selections / teams.

Crashes

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- Fixed crash if user retires whilst on the Jobs screen.

- Fixed possible crash when user accepted job offers from other teams.

Database

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- Fixed a problem with Finnish weather, it doesn't always rain now.

User Interface

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- Fixed an issue with skins in the user data folder picking up the wrong skin settings in some cases.

- Make available for reserves menu item was out of line with other options.

- The "Change User" menu would disappear in hot seat mode until the game was continued.

- Fixed bug where match split view panels would sometimes both default to Pitch view.

- Fixed some continue button text issues when a human picks 2 teams for matches at the same time.

- If a team scores more than 9 goals in a match, the match overview section no longer shows ".." for the goals.

- You can now view the knowledge sub-section of the scouting panel for teams without scouts

- Fixed bug where the match screen split view could show 2 pitch panels at the same time.

- Future squad selection rules which will apply to a team are now shown (greyed) on the team screen.

- Stopped situation where monthly calendar news would appear even if there were no important dates to be shown.

- Message saying a player or players couldn't be selected due to travelling to be with 'their squads' now references international squads.

- Draft allocations panel has now been moved of the Transfers panel on the team screen.

- Best Eleven screen remembers view when leaving the screen and returning.

- Fixed a bug in the squad selection rules error message. The list of invalid players was not getting displayed in full.

- Added status icon "PR" (Player Reaction) for player reacting to collective bonus decisions.

- Longest time at club record for a manager now shows correctly if the manager has been without a club for a longer time.

- Assistant manager team talk button is now hidden if a team does not have an assistant manager.

- Rows no longer disappear from the Award winners screen when players retire.

- Fixed bug where post match details would not appear properly sometimes when navigating away from the screen and returning.

- Portuguese players now get shown as being eligible to gain Brazilian nationality.

- Days to qualify for nationality do not increase for a country the player is not currently in.

- Fixed a bug where sometimes a cup draw would take place before the user had a chance to draw it themselves.

- Coach report screen remembers which coach you were using to get reports when moving between players.

- Fixed bug where user could make a sub during a penalty shootout.

- Fixed a problem where the user could attempt to create a new folder with illegal filename characters.

- When user changes the "Show Highlights In" setting in a match when a pitch is already showing, the new pitch panel will now appear properly.

- Fixed problem with continue game timeouts kicking in before the full time team talk has been given.

- Fixed problem that could cause new skins to not show up on the preferences screen.

- Fixed a problem with the injury duration description on the player profile screen for certain pre-game injuries.

- Players who gave gained a second nationality but remain in that nation no longer have an entry staying on their Days to Gain nationality panel.

- Added Tight Marking to view menu in the in-match tactics.

- Can no longer reject transfers that meet minimum fee release clauses via the transfer centre.

- Fixed a few club kit colours.

- Fixed a bug where the gk player instructions were getting replaced by an outfield players if a certain series of steps was carried out on the tactics screen.

- If no highlight is playing, the pitch section on the match screen is disabled.

- Next match button on match screen when viewing highlights now works correctly each time.

- Highlighted profile on team and player competition stats overview screen now uses stats for that competition not overall stats.

- When viewing highlights of a past match, the pitch action is now smoother.

- Changing "Closing Down" descriptions on player and team instruction panels.

- Updated horizontal scrollbars visible on Competition Tree view.

- Man of the Match and Injuries are now highlighted better on Match Overview and Match Stats sections.

- Fixed a rare problem where match screen would sometimes not allow users to go back into tactics after making a change.

- Fixed bug where coming out of tactics sometimes wasn't returning the user back to full match highlight mode properly.

- Improved star graphics to make it easier to tell the difference between each level.

- When viewing scout reports for specific assignments it now remembers the assignment when returning back from looking at a player profile.

Media

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- Golden Boot news is now sent directly to the human if one of his players is in the top three.

- Monthly player award news uses the correct stadium name if the player moved clubs at the end of the month.

- Award voting reminder news now states the correct voting deadline for Final Reminders.

- Total transfer spending record news does not repeat when monthly installment payments are made.

- Ensured correct stadium is used when news item mentions next fixture in managerial landmark news e.g 1000th game in charge.

- Can no longer appeal ban for two yellow card sendings off.

- Lowered threshold for judging cup shocks.

- Fixed scout next opposition "Comment on Dangerman" button taking you to the interaction screen with no dangerman comments just before the match.

Coach Reports

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- Fixed issue where you would receive a news item stating that a player had progressed well and then the coaches wouldn't comment on his progression in the coach report.

- Fixed issue when assistant highly rates virtually the entire team.

Contracts

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- Boosted the squad status expectations and wage requests of players involved in big money transfers.

- Put in code to help dissuade staff members from moving clubs shortly after signing a new contract.

- Players signed through a waiver draft do not sometimes reject contracts now.

International Management

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- Fixed news item saying player was left out of international fold when he is was injured and unable to be called up anyway.

- Fixed line saying players coaxed out of retirement were left out of previous squad.

- Fixed international manager attending the wrong game when a club had another match before the game that he elected to go and watch.

- Main, U21, U19 text on national pool now hyperlinks to the respective squads.

- National supporter spokespersons now have cities of birth.

- Ensure that, in the run-up to an international match, players for clubs who have fixtures re-arranged for the mid-week don't travel until after that match.

- Stop human international teams organising friendlies against teams who don't currently have a team enabled in the same age group. e.g. Bermuda U20s vs England U20s at game start date.

- Fixed message relating to player's other nationality when user asks dual nationality player to play more first team football to gain place.

- Stopped pre-signed players (who are too young to play for a club side e.g. Alexander Pato) being prevented from playing for an international team.

Scouting

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- Ensure that the min asking price is going to round greater than 0 before commenting on the likely asking price.

- Ensured scout's with high judging potential aren't as accurate when rating players for potential.

- Fixed issue when changing a coach's role to scout and he couldn't perform assignments.

Transfers

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- Stopped AI teams attempting to re-new loans when the player is unable to go on-loan to them because of the teams division loan rules.

- Players who have incorrect club join dates set in the database are now allowed to go on loan from Premier League teams.

- Ensured players without work permits will join work permit feeder clubs.

- Increased the threshold before chairman will accept bids over the head of the manager in charge.

Awards

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- Greek Club of the Year award is now given.

- Cypriots are no longer considered Foreign in Greek awards.

- Stripped out starting Award History's in games started without real players.

- Fixed problem where if all your own players dominate an award shortlist you would get stuck on the voting screen.

Competitions

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- Stopped games been incorrectly called off due to international call-ups.

- Fixed clash between Champions League and South American World Cup qualifiers in 2009.

- Adjusted attendances for small clubs playing in cup competitions.

- Adjusted long term effects of fan days.

- Adjusted the attendances in intra-squad friendlies down severely.

International

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- Austria and Switzerland now play their group matches in their own country for Euro 2008.

- Denmark now play their home matches at NRGi Park until the 14th Oct 2007.

Argentina

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- Argentine Second Division History now recorded.

Australia

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- Improved teams Australian teams play in friendlies.

- Fixed conflicting squad restriction in 2014 and beyond.

Belgium

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- Stopped duplicate transfer round-up news item appearing for Belgian clubs.

- Belgian Cup Final is played at the Stade Roi Baudouin.

- Correct Second Division Playoff schedule is now used (all teams play each other home and away).

- 2nd to 5th position are used instead of the Period winners in the Second Division Playoff stage.

Brazil

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- Brazilian National Third Division history is now updated correctly.

- Added the Brazilian National First Division prize money.

Chile

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- Added correct transfer windows.

Czech Rep

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- Fixed promoted and relegated teams not matching up between the First and Second Division when a relegation position play-off is needed.

Denmark

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- Added 6 points deduction for Boldklubben Frem 1886.

- Saturday Premier Division game is now shown on TV.

Holland

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- Fixed some news item problems to do with the Dutch Premier Division playoffs.

- Fixed fixtures clashing with European fixtures.

England

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- Better TV game selection for FA Cup games.

- Mid-week games now kick-off at 1945.

- Updated the Setanta Shield prize money.

- FA Trophy Final is now televised.

- Johnstone Paint Trophy games now have games shown on TV.

Europe

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- Royal League has now been cancelled.

- The two legs of the later cup rounds do not both get played on the same day of the week.

- Champions Cup group stage draw can now be viewed.

- Changed date of Euro Cup group stage draw.

- Fixed Champions League group stage win/draw prize money.

Greece

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- Fixed back to back squad registration windows around the 17th August.

Hong Kong

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- Fixed user being able to sign more than 12 foreigners in Hong Kong First Division.

- Hong Kong First Division Reserve matches played in neutral stadiums of 4,000 or less.

Hungary

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- Fixed Hungarian League Cup winners not appearing in competition history.

Indonesia

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- Contract end dates are now set as 31st October.

Israel

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- Squad numbers now used in all competitions.

- 5 foreign players can now start in a Israeli Cup match.

Italy

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- Added this years Italian Serie C Cup teams.

- Applied -1 points deduction to 3 Serie C2 teams.

- Serie A teams that have their match postponed to Sunday should be playing at 3pm not 4pm.

Malaysia

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- Fixed foreign player rules for some competitions.

Mexico

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- Fixed bug where teams would sometimes get a Mexican First Division title added to their achievements for winning the playoff stage.

Norway

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- Added correct squad selection rules for the Norwegian Premier and First Division.

- All clubs in Premier and First division get under-soil heating.

Peru

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- Two teams are now relegated from the Peruvian First Division.

Poland

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- Cancelled the 10 points deduction applied to Polish Second Division side Odra Opole.

Portugal

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- First three rounds of the League Cup now use the correct seedings.

- Updated TV dates and times for the Portuguese top two divisions.

Scotland

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- Trialists can no longer play in cup games.

- Football League match day squads can only contain 2 trialists.

- Fixtures are now generated for the second season in all Scottish leagues.

- Fixed a bug where the league was sometimes not sorted before the split was introduced.

Singapore

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- Fixed Singaporean League Cup record not being written in competition history.

- Add Random draws for Singapore Cup and Singaporean League Cup.

- Change of transfer windows for Singaporean League.

- U18 league matches now played at neutral stadiums with 1500 or less capacity.

- Singapore U18 & U17 team cannot sign foreign players.

South America

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- Teams from the same nation play against each other in the Copa Sudamericana Semi Final stage.

- Uruguayan teams now seeded correctly in the Copa Libertadores.

- South American Continental Cups now get correct referees for matches.

Spain

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- Implemented Cotonou Agreement for Spanish league - players from 79 ACP (African, Caribbean and Pacific states) countries no longer considered non-EU.

- Fixed bug where some players were not getting minimum fee release clauses.

Sweden

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- Pre-season no long starts on 24th December for teams involved in the Royal League.

- Changed the teams which move divisions When game is started in 2008.

United States

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- Foreign developmental players do not count towards the wage cap.

- Fixed bug where squad selection rules for certain MLS teams were not showing the correct maximum values at all times.

- Correct 2007 fixtures added.

- Allowed squad numbers up to 99.

- MLS teams can no longer sign foreign players from the PDL before they reach 22 or enter a draft.

- Fixed a problem with the American player rule for Toronto. Some players were being wrongly classified as Americans.

- MLS Rising Stars team is now filled with American players only.

- Players on free transfer with MLS rights have to be traded instead of being approached directly.

- Changed stage names of MLS conference playoffs.

- Virtual players now ask for developmental contracts by default.

- Improved selection of players from a draft. Teams make fewer passes.

- Updated maximum allowed wage $325,000 p/a outside of Designated Players.

- Fixed wrong teams in CONCACAF Champions Cup.

- Toronto foreigners now gain Canadian nationality not American if they stay for enough years.

- Fixed bug which was converting future draft allocations offered in transfers to 6th pick draft allocations.

- Toronto now get Canadian nationality youth players instead of American.

Assets

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England

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- Fixed Marvin Elliot / Marvin Williams picture mix up.

- Added Bath City badge

- Added Solihull Moors badge

Spain

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- Added Athletic Bilbao player pictures

- Added Atletico Madrid player pictures

- Added Deportivo player pictures

- Added Espanyol player pictures

- Added Levante player pictures

- Added Osasuna player pictures

- Added Racing Santander player pictures

- Added Real Betis player pictures

- Added Real Mallorca player pictures

- Added Real Murcia player pictures

- Added Real Valladolid player pictures

- Added Recreativo player pictures

Match Engine Version History

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- Fixed bug where the match was treating the JTP North/South finals as the main final itself.

- When an injured player is also sent off, the game won't force the human manager to replace him.

Match v639

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- Re-worked marking and closing down to address conflict between the two - defenders should now close down better when appropriate.

- Further improved team reactions to cleared set pieces.

- Reduced delay between foul and whistle.

- But...allowed more advantages when prudent.

- Improved set piece positioning for free kicks and some throws.

- Fixed keeper occasionally kicking off new match period.

- Fixed another example of player kicking off to no-one.

- AI teams now add "back arrow" to def mid position for one MC if needed.

- AI teams a little more reactive to opposition pace when setting D-line.

- Small tweak to ease overcautious AI use of mentality slider occasionally.

- Made players take longer to accelerate all the way to full speed.

- Made blatant offside’s get called a little quicker.

- Enhanced effect on flair of "creative freedom" slider slightly.

- Fixed bug that would stop full back overlapping run prematurely.

- Improved smoothness of dribbling slightly.

- Players now look to run into space with ball better.

- Stopped a few unrealistic examples of poor first touch.

- Allowed players to take more first time shots when appropriate eg rebounds.

- Improved attacking positioning for certain formations that use "side arrows" on attacking midfielders.

- Improved attacking position of central "in hole" player.

- Stopped certain illogical forward runs being made from deep.

- Defenders put tackles/clearances in more appropriately.

- Biased aerial challenges slightly more towards those with higher jumping.

- Slightly less fouls when jumping for the ball.

- Reduced keeper effectiveness on close in shots slightly.

- Low team blend now has more effect on mental attributes.

- Allow more quick free kicks to be taken.

- Improved ball receiver AI slightly.

- Defenders caught wrong side of ball try to get back faster.

- Fixed defenders pushing up to edge of area when should be dealing with ball player.

- Improved player ability to deflect shots/crosses.

- Fixed defenders coming across and heading ball that team mate had covered.

- Tweaked decision making for ball player.

- Improved finishing for "bread and butter" chances.

- Improved accuracy of "bread and butter" passes.

- Further tweak to keeper kicking distance.

- Headers from descending balls now more likely to be looping in nature.

- Improved kicked clearance direction from defenders.

- Improved "subdued" goal celebration where scorer used to move a bit then stop still.

- Ball shadow slightly less pronounced in FM.

Match v640

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- Improved referee ability to try to "play the advantage".

- Fixed anomaly causing further problems with kick offs.

- Fixed AI subs when keeper sent off that could cause 2 goalies to be present.

- Another tweak to AI mentality setting.

- Made AI teams try to exploit 3 at the back without wingbacks by getting ball wide more.

- Improved positions at goal kicks.

- Improved corners sent to player lurking outside area.

- Improved use of channels to pass into and move into.

- Made first touch a little more realistic.

- Made players even more willing to run with ball into space when possible.

- And more likely to shoot in good positions.

- And more likely to cross in good positions.

- And more likely to turn before hoofing ball clear when necessary.

- Power shots more likely to go too high.

- Improved player perception of potential interceptions on pass.

- Improved direction of "flick on" headers.

- Improved code that decides whether player should pass ball around and keep possession based on directness, time wasting etc.

- Made "tackle clearances" more realistic in terms of distance and direction.

- Fixed anomaly that allowed potential clearance towards own goal when very close to it.

- Reduced instances of players dribbling ball out of play.

- Keepers more likely to follow distribution instructions.

- Keepers more effective on long shots.

- Fixed rare occurrence of keeper not taking up position for penalty kick.

- Improve defender marking on ball player running at pace with ball.

- Made players less likely to leave tactical shape to mark opponents when ball and player not in danger area.

Match v641

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- Fixed crash that occurs after player about to kick off gets a red card.

Match v642

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- Made sure free kick isn’t called back after advantage has been played for a sensible amount of time.

- Fix to stop players continuing to swap when option removed in tactical change during match.

- Fixed bug where slight injury isn’t reported when watching match in "commentary only" ( FM only ).

- Improved variety of assistant manager team talk suggestions.

- Made sure offside always called when player shoots for goal and has team mate standing well offside in ball path.

- Slight tweak to player match ratings to give them more range.

- Improved player run with ball AI.

- Improved full backs overlapping, and made their teammates more likely to try to pass to them.

- Further change to closing down code, as initial fix wasn’t quite coded correctly.

- Made players clear ball quicker under real pressure.

- Fixed bug where defenders might pass up obvious interception opportunities.

- Stopped players moving back into onside positions at unrealistically fast speed.

- Reduced pointless off ball runs that just made it harder for team mates.

- Fixed anomaly from pass vs interceptions decision making in 640.

Match v643

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- Fixed central defenders sometimes using closing down rather than marking against pace.

- Stopped AI managers playing too negatively when losing due to their sitting back attribute.

- Fixed interceptions not being recorded properly in match stats.

- Made defenders clear ball when under pressure in own area and ball bouncing at awkward height.

- Improved player decisions on when to tackle when up against player running with ball.

- Improved short throw ins slightly in terms of direction and speed.

- Made players a little more willing to shoot first time.

Match v644

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- Fixed match score divergence.

Match v645

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- Fixed advantage not being always played when fouled player gets clear of his assailant.

- Further tweak to closing down logic, to make it slightly more accurate vs slider descriptions.

- Made players work harder to get back to opponents who have gone beyond them.

- Fixed extremes of players not reacting for ages to ongoing play.

- Tweaked player choice of opponent to mark to include tactical position more.

- Improved direction of facing for defenders marking attackers in open play.

- Fixed bug in defensive line pushing to edge of area for team defending left end of pitch.

- Improved direction of defender who is chasing down attacker who is running with ball and has got ahead of him.

- Slight improvements to players decisions on whether to clear ball under pressure.

- Tweaked up pass accuracy a bit, especially when under no pressure.

- Made lesser players limit pace on pass to increase accuracy ( subject to decisions test ).

- Changed pass risk assessment to reflect mentality setting and flair a little more.

- Less hoofs up field to no-one when under no pressure, unless time wasting.

- Made players cross more willingly and also earlier when possible depending on instructions.

- More shots when in obvious good positions.

- Players with decent decision making less likely to dribble into trouble.

- Players more likely to get ball onto best foot.

- Improved first touch a little.

- Fixed bug where player sometimes moves really slowly with ball for ages.

- Made it harder to cut back ball dramatically when running down wing at pace.

- Improved logic of bias towards pass focus instruction when assessing passes.

- Improved off ball movement slightly.

- Stopped target men moving into channel so often when getting long balls to head.

- Players come to loose balls more aggressively, and try to intercept earlier in own danger zone.

- Attacking players also more likely to follow up on shots.

- Made keepers less likely to let ball go narrowly wide of post, unless extreme time wasting.

- Improved direction of keeper kicking.

- Less fouls when going for headers.

- Further tweak to make more early shots when under pressure or in good position.

- Made some headers on goal slightly less powerful.

- Stopped first time shots coming in from ridiculous positions.

- Made players come shorter at throws when thrower struggling for options.

- When player is selected to come to collect from keeper he comes deeper.

- Stopped one man walls on free kicks taken by keeper in deep position.

- Fixed possibility of play getting stuck when player with ball goes down injured.

- Tweaked player ratings back halfway towards pre v642 levels.

Match v646

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- Reduced shot accuracy slightly.

- Stopped players dropping deep to mark opponents instead of holding defensive line for an easy offside.

- Fixed bug where player may not react to short pass from keeper.

- Reduced players dallying on ball when being closed down.

- Made keepers more likely to clear lines from back passes.

- Players get back to kick off position quicker after celebrating goal.

Match v647

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- Assistant managers now always give a team talk recommendation when asked.

- AI now take comebacks from 2 or 3 down into account when deciding team talks.

- Players also take comebacks into account when reacting to team talks.

- Stopped centre halves getting dragged out of position too easily when NOT first man behind ball.

- Slight reduction on lengths of goal kicks.

- Keepers now more willing to come to collect such long balls into their own area.

- Further improved defender direction facing when marking non ball player.

- Fixed issue with defenders dithering over whether to continue marking player with ball.

- Further fix re confusion between closing down ball player and marking him from a strategic position.

- Fixed further instance of players taking ridiculous first time shots.

- Fixed rare occurrence of players controlling ball and moving a few yards with it stuck to their foot.

- Fixed bug where player who wins aerial challenge always recovers quicker than the player who lost out.

- Fixed bug where defenders would occasionally get skinned by opponent due to problem in code rather than lack of ability.

- Fixed bug where keepers occasionally miss saves for no reason.

- Tweaked number of shots going over bar.

Match v648

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- Fixed bug where assistant team talk suggestions may be illogical after a win

Match v649

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- Fixed rare bug where keeper may needlessly miss opportunity to save shot

- Improved decision between pass and run depending on player instruction, player tendency and situation

- Made wide players get into the box quicker when ball on opposite side

- Tweaked average ratings for attacking wide men

- Stopped distribution defender coming way too deep to pick up ball at goal kicks

- Put a harsher workrate test on tracking back to challenge player already under pressure

- Fixed bug where defenders take up identical positions when "doubling up" on attacker

- Off ball runs from behind ball now done at higher speed

- Fixed unrealistically slow kicked clearances

- Fixed advantage being played then play called back a few seconds later

- Fixed bug where one player kicks off with no team mate next to him

- Slightly toned down effect on ball physics of muddy/wet pitches

- Stopped ball that lands on top of net dropping to zero height and making it look like it should be a goal

- Stopped AI managers in FML changing mentality during match

- And reduced substitutions by AI managers in FML

- Fixed players at low levels of football occasionally playing to a stupidly poor standard

- Toned down defenders occasionally being drawn too far out from defensive line to close down players

- Stopped strikers trying unrealistic first time shots when very wide or through on goal

- Slight improvement on first touch and time taken to react after receiving ball

- Improved likelyhood of attackers "lunging" in to ball running across face of goal

- Improved positioning of players coming to offer options to throw in taker

- Tweaked marking positioning and facing direction slightly further

- Improved shooting accuracy for easier chances

- Slight reduction in number of "power shots"

- Improved near post flick ons at corners

Match v650

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- Stopped kick off being taken before all players close to their starting positions

- Fixed bug from v640 that stopped keeper retrieving ball from own net after goal

- Fixed possibility of negative teamtalk reaction from player when team praised after positive result

- Reduced strikers taking up wide position and inhibiting the wide midfielder's movement

- Stopped players taking heavy morale hit after defeat that breaks excellent result sequence

- Made composed defenders turn on ball before clearing if possible

- Pushed central midfielders slightly forward when ball wide

- Fixed "attack near/far post" at corners

- Fixed poor marking at free kicks close to corner

- Stopped receiver taking control of ball needlessly early

- And fixed new bug where receiver dallies on taking control of ball

- Made keeper offer back pass option more willingly

- More tweaks to improve goalie positioning and reactions

- Fixed bug that allows centre halves to go for same ball without failing decision test

- Made players with tackle easy set stand off more rather than make tackle

- Players more willing to make themselves available for simple pass

- Improved marking facing further

- Stopped player dallying when passed ball from kick off

- Improved keeper response to distribution instructions further

- Fixed potential for defenders to score own goal when picking up loose ball on own goal line but facing own goal

- Fixed referee penalising player for foul when not close enough to opponent who takes a dive

- Fixed very low condition players not being subbed with knock ons that can mean sent off keeper not replaced

- Upped midfielder match ratings a tad

Match v651

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- Improved rating of goals for awards/FML

- Fixed half time keeper sub coming on at wrong end

- Fixed wing back being reported as playing at full back after match

- Tweaked number of fouls up as it has been dropping

- Reduced effectiveness of headers slightly

- Reduced pass completion slightly

- Fixed corner delivery instructions being ignored

- Improved penalty scoring rate

- Reduced use of tall target man for less direct style managers

Match v652

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- Fixed rare crash when player heads ball at goal

- Stopped AI managers giving out run with ball instruction to unsuitable players

- Improved attacking positioning and delivery at free kicks near opp goal

- First set of optimisations to reduce recent slowdown

Match v653

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- Optimised match engine code to improve speed by around 20%

- Fixed bug where strikers can play too close together in unusual formations

- Fixed some run of the mill goals being given very high award ratings

- Raised number of fouls to more in line with real world data

- Raised number of penalties and their conversion rate in line with real world data

- Fixed ball stopping unrealistically quickly on some low passes/shots

- Improved player judgement of interception possibilities

- Improved closing down AI yet again, now more aggressive but less unneccesary "doubling up"

- Made player recovery time after going to ground more realistic

- Players now clear instead of tackle if it is feasible

- Fixed some unrealistic instances of poor first touch

- Players lunge in for loose balls near opposition goal more realistically

- Defenders now more effective against attackers running at them

- Defenders now slightly more aware of their dangerman's position when "marking space"

- Fixed some strange positioning at free kicks inside defending penalty area

- Players with long shots set to often, or with long shots PPM, now more willing to do so in good positions subject to morale

Match v654

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- Fixed players ignoring passes due to bug in optimisation

- Fixed players sometimes clearing ball instead of converting simple chance

- Pushed D-line up a tiny bit to reduce defensive teams ability to pass ball around and dominate possession

Data Editor

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- Updated award editing to support new award fields.

- Fixed problem with cursor in number fields on Mac.

- Fixed some club records not getting saved properly.

[Mark]

Finalmente!!

[Denis.]

Caraaaaalho..

So de le essa changelist ja fiquei locao!

Finalmente vou começar meu save!

[CassioGP]

Vai sair hoje acho eu... servidor em atualização no site.

[Matheuѕ]

O servido jah tah em atualização faz tempo.

Vai fikar pra amanha mesmo.

Hey all,

I thought I’d drop by and give you and update on where we are at with the 8.0.1 patch.

We have finished optimising the match engine and the results from our tests have proved positive; the slowdown issue that affected the speed of the game has now been addressed.

We will be conducting our final tests this evening and overnight, and providing everything checks out okay, we’ll begin building the patch from tomorrow and will hopefully release the final version later in the evening.

Our intention is to deliver all patches across all platforms at the same time.

Thanks again for your patience and continued support.

Cheers,

Neil

Parece que vai resolver o problema do jogo passar lento demais. Isso eh bom...

Jah podem sair do topico... :heh:

[Lucas Eickmann]

Fiquei feliz com as mudanças do patch também :D

Mas olha, eu acho que eu sou o único louco que joguei o jogo mesmo com a quantidade de bugs que ele tinha.

Começa com as expulsões, jogando no Everton, Lescott e David Luiz chegaram ao absurdo de juntos, serem expulsos 7 vezes nos 10 primeiros jogos da Premiere, isso porque eles cumpriam suspensões também :P

O problema do goleiro sair de dentro da barra nos escanteios, acontecia comigo também..

Fora que o juiz também me anulava muitos gols, chegou a acontecer em uma partida 5 vezes! Andy Johnson já nem corria mais nos lançamentos, era sempre impedimento :P

Fora as faltas né? Nem comento que Johnson fez um gol que foi anulado e o juiz ainda EXPULSOU ele, nessa eu dei o caralho aqui, até a minha cadeira voou no momento de ódio.

Só pra completar, tão falando dos empates aí, eu empatei VINTE VEZES em um ano da Premier com o Liverpool, na seqüencia do save. Meu amigo, eu mudava de tática todo jogo, passava horas desenvolvendo uma tática mortífera e no final do jogo era sempre os mesmos resultados: 0x0, 1x1, 2x2, chegou até a rolar uma partida que eu tava vencendo por 3x0 o Bolton e levei um gol aos 88 e dois depois dos 90, então daí tu tira.

Mesmo com todos esses "pequenos defeitos" do jogo, eu não fechei ele nem por um minuto, meu velho, eu sou brasileiro e não desisto nunca!

Desde os primordios de CM2, eu jogava com o Barcelona e só fazia levar goleada do Real Madrid que tinha aquele puto daquele Suker, que me fazia uns 2, 3 gols por jogo, eu não desistia chapa, por que ia desistir agora?

Só pra finalizar, amante do jogo manager é assim mesmo, liga a caixa de som no volume máximo quando tá sozinho em casa só pra ouvir o grito da torcida na hora do gol. (Eu ia dizer amante do FM, mas lembrei que joguei MUITOS CM's) :P

[Lewiks]

Fiquei feliz com as mudanças do patch também :D

Mas olha, eu acho que eu sou o único louco que joguei o jogo mesmo com a quantidade de bugs que ele tinha.

Começa com as expulsões, jogando no Everton, Lescott e David Luiz chegaram ao absurdo de juntos, serem expulsos 7 vezes nos 10 primeiros jogos da Premiere, isso porque eles cumpriam suspensões também :P

O problema do goleiro sair de dentro da barra nos escanteios, acontecia comigo também..

Fora que o juiz também me anulava muitos gols, chegou a acontecer em uma partida 5 vezes! Andy Johnson já nem corria mais nos lançamentos, era sempre impedimento :P

Fora as faltas né? Nem comento que Johnson fez um gol que foi anulado e o juiz ainda EXPULSOU ele, nessa eu dei o caralho aqui, até a minha cadeira voou no momento de ódio.

Só pra completar, tão falando dos empates aí, eu empatei VINTE VEZES em um ano da Premier com o Liverpool, na seqüencia do save. Meu amigo, eu mudava de tática todo jogo, passava horas desenvolvendo uma tática mortífera e no final do jogo era sempre os mesmos resultados: 0x0, 1x1, 2x2, chegou até a rolar uma partida que eu tava vencendo por 3x0 o Bolton e levei um gol aos 88 e dois depois dos 90, então daí tu tira.

Mesmo com todos esses "pequenos defeitos" do jogo, eu não fechei ele nem por um minuto, meu velho, eu sou brasileiro e não desisto nunca!

Desde os primordios de CM2, eu jogava com o Barcelona e só fazia levar goleada do Real Madrid que tinha aquele puto daquele Suker, que me fazia uns 2, 3 gols por jogo, eu não desistia chapa, por que ia desistir agora?

Só pra finalizar, amante do jogo manager é assim mesmo, liga a caixa de som no volume máximo quando tá sozinho em casa só pra ouvir o grito da torcida na hora do gol. (Eu ia dizer amante do FM, mas lembrei que joguei MUITOS CM's) :P

Eu jogo sem Pacth também... e quanto ao empates que eu comentei, atualizandos os dados

22 jogos iníctos 15 empates e 7 vitórias...